Ubuntu Fail

I disliked Ubuntu Gutsy when it was released and I have to say I dislike Hardy as well.

When I recently rebuilt my main machine, I installed Hardy hoping to give Ubuntu another chance. I used to be a huge Ubuntu fan unfortunately, the fandom stops with Feisty.

Bonus to Hardy, that annoying tracker does not install and hog my system by default. The most annoying thing? Lots of support for lots of hardware was dropped. Winfast & Hauppauge TV Tuner cards which have worked wonderfully in linux have all kinds of special issues in Ubuntu starting with Gutsy. MythBuntu equals a big pain in the neck.

I have heard from others who are leaving Ubuntu since the last few releases. Reading through the support forums and the bugtrackers, the community has reverted to the old standard of either not replying, treating people like they aren’t worth the effort to explain things to, or assuming their position on the issue is superior. This is why linux users have always been avoided, because they act like elitist.

Ubuntu is supposed to be user friendly and for new linux users. How can you possibly promote that if the community snubs the newbies.

One thread that struck me was about the fact that there was no GUI disk management installed by default.  The very first response to this posting was “no one should need to manually manage disks…” WTF? Seriously?

There are several cases when you need to manually manage disks: 1) the LiveCD does not mount local disks, 2) If you add a new disk to the system. How many people who aren’t major geeks know how to manage their disks from the command line? I know several people I consider pretty geeky who don’t even know how to do it in Windows.

There are apps you can apt-get to enable a GUI access like gparted, but you have to know what it is called & how to install it ~or~ the right search terms to google to learn how. How many newbies are going to know how to do this or not reach maximum level of frustration with this? Ubuntu doesn’t have a utility that kicks off on boot if you have added new hardware either.

Ubuntu is really losing it’s way, and I have to say I cannot recommend it anymore. I am back to vanillla Debian and maybe dabble some more in Arch. Do you have a particular distro you absolutely adore? Let me know what you are using and why you love it and I will give it a whirl.

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6 responses to “Ubuntu Fail

  1. Like we talked about before I am totally with you. When the first version of MythBuntu was released I was blown away by how great it was. And other than the tracker thing I was still loving Ubuntu at that point…. MythBuntu really made advanced MythTV setups a breeze and I didn’t have to worry about any custom configurations for old hardware at all. When I recently did the dist-upgrade to my mythbuntu system everything went to hell in a hand basket. All of a sudden I was having buffering issues when I was trying to watch TV…. I played with settings and it got better… for a while….. I eventually just ended up having to build a beefier PC as my front end….. up until that upgrade my P3 1.0ghz CPU with 512MB of RAM did just fine for both playback and for DVD playback….. now here I am with an AMD Athlon and I rarely get buffer issues when watching shows off of the backend but I still have a good bit of issues with DVD playback. I don’t understand how all of a sudden it takes a lot more power to do what I’ve been doing for years…. It feels a lot like upgrading to the latest and greatest windows version…. more power required for less features.

    And the hardware thing…. FFS….. *EVERYONE* has Hauppauge PVR150s…. they were *THE* tuner card that you used for Linux and MythTV was basically designed around them……. while it’s true that my PVR150s are still working as far as recording I can’t get the damned IR blaster to work to save my life. In fact, I can’t get any of them to work….. I’ve spent time on google and finding many instructions for getting it to work with LIRC but whatever crap version of LIRC that is installed in MythBuntu now doesn’t fit what every other how-to does….. But people in the Ubuntu forums should know, right? Well apparently not….. I guess because I don’t have a huge desire to have huge HDTV screens and I really only care about simple TV then I am not worthy of their time.

    But a side note…. Debian’s bug trackers and forums are just as evil….. sure linux is known to be “snobby” but my first step away from Madnriva was to Debian and it only took 3 visits to the forums before I was so pissed off that I decided never to run Debian again….. well, that is until now that Ubuntu is going the same way…… I also have to say that a lot of the stupid bull crap in Ubuntu is starting to creep up in Debian too….. I think the reason why it’s not noticed as much is because their release cycle is so slow. In fact, you can’t even use the new 3ware cards on a default Debian install because the kernel doesn’t support them….. but when we used a custom CD image with the latest kernel we gained that support but we lost support for other hardware we had. I think Ubuntu might be a glimpse into what Debian is ultimately becomming as well….

    I might have to check out Arch….. The distro that I’m thinking I may dive into if I abandon all of debian is GenToo….. I’ve wanted to for a while but I’m just too lazy to learn….. but I have quite a few customers that are converting servers over to GenToo and at least half of everyone in my LUG prefers GenToo…. so there must be something to it 🙂

  2. When it works out of the box, it’s great. When people like my dad start having problems, it takes a true evil genius geek to get things figured out. I’ve honestly never been a fan of any Debian-derived work. apt-get beats RPM any day of the week, but that’s not saying much. I’m a true-blue BSD freak at heart, and BSD’s Ports/Package systems haven’t changed much at all in the past decade and they JUST WORK most of the time.

    Since this is Linux world, though, I can admit that Gentoo is cool but daunting for the beginner. It’s pretty much the problem with the entirety of Linux on the desktop.

    Not to wax Apple fanboi over here, but in the 15 years Linux has been around, they’ve still failed at coming up with an OS that most anyone can sit down at and simply use. Apple (yes, and all their corporate moolah) threw together a bunch of old tech into a crucible and out pops OS X, a unix-based OS that solves so many problems that have plagued Linux for so long.

    I can’t help but think that if there weren’t 300 different teams shooting for spin-offs or mulligans of the same old rubbish, we might have three really epic takes on the Linux flavor, any one of which might finally stand more than a snowball’s chance in hell at stealing significant desktop market share from Apple and Microsoft.

  3. Like you, I was disappointed Ubuntu (one reason is its stability). So I switch to Fedora (very good distribution), and now I use openSUSE, and I’m very happy with the change.

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  5. I unfortunately dove into Linux without any guidance and Ubuntu was the distro I fell upon. I tried one called Ultimate Edition, but there wasn't much support and I didn't know at the time what anything was called, much less what GUI Enviroment it was running and that there were differences in them. I'm still a little Linux challenged, but since starting and running my own Apache 2 web server, which I had used to publicly host about 6 websites for a few months, I've learned a vast amount more about it.Jaunty has been a big improvement on my end, which now offers wireless drivers for my Asus Eee netbook. I've seen many issues with it, but I have nothing but Windows to compare it to and there's just no comparison. I wouldn't touch Windows anymore except I do a lot of video editing and I haven't successfully managed to do that in Ubuntu without video rendering issues. So I'm still partially married to Windows.In terms of support, I've actually had good luck so far and really haven't needed forum support since you can find an answer that works just about every time with the use of Google. I did appreciate your review though and if I get the chance, I might give another distro a try. I looked a Fedora and I still favored Ubuntu, but that's as far as I've gone.

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